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Форум Содружества Мототуристов MotoTravels » ПОГОВОРИТЬ ПРОСТО » Треп, болталка. » Внимание!!! Новая вариация аферы. (письмо из лондона)
Внимание!!! Новая вариация аферы.
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 01:06 | Сообщение # 1
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Ни для кого уже не секрет, что я продаю свой мотоцикл, и тем более не секрет что осенью – зимой мотоциклы продаются плохо. По этому объявления о продаже висят на многих сайтах.
И вот как то вечером мне на телефон приходит вот такое сообщение.
Ниже привожу фрагменты переписки на анлийском языке, кто не понимает запихните в переводчик (я так и делал). Переписка продолжалась около суток. Не смотря на то, что с самого начала я подумал что это разводилово, предложение было настолько сладкое и неожиданное что оно меня заинтересовало.

Номер телефона: Cox9979,
текст: Hello. Is this bike still for sale, if yes mail me back to kluvert78649@gmail.com Thanks.
 
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 01:10 | Сообщение # 2
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Далее общение через электронную почту

-Морфин: Hi. about what motorcycle there is a speech?

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Hello,
Thanks for your response.Am interested in buying.How long have you owned the car?? what's your actual price for it?.
Awaiting to hear from you soon,
Best Regards.

-Морфин: My Yamaha TDM 900 motorcycle is interesting to you?

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Yes i have an interest in buying it, so how much do you want to sell it? waiting for your response,

- Морфин: You from where. I am weak in English

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
How much do you want to sell the car in USD $? waiting for your response,

- Морфин: 8100$

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com

Thanks for your response. $8,100 USD is a nice and accepted price. I will be adding the 3.9% PayPal surcharge to the total amount i will be paying you. So i will be paying directly into your PayPal account without any delay, and i hope you have a PayPal account. If you have one already, just send me the address to send it to, which is the email address you use for it or you can send me a PayPal money request, so once i receive the details i will go ahead with the payment through PayPal and then i will contact my shipping company after you get the payment. I will need your home address for the merchandise to be Picked Up by the Shipping Company. I want you to know that i have made an arrangement with the courier company coming to pick up the merchandise and i signed a note of authorization with them so their courier representative can sign for the necessary documentation on my behalf. So concerning the issue of the documentations of the bike and the signing, I want you to know that an arrangement has been made with a courier company to pick up the merchandise and the representative coming will bring along the copy of my identification for you to have full data to make the change of ownership and the representative will be the signatory to the documents as I have signed a note of authorization with his company I await your mail.

- Морфин: unfortunately PayPal in Russia doesn't work as it is necessary, on it only the bank account.

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Thanks for your response, bank to bank transfer is also good, so i can make the payment through bank to bank transfer, send me your bank details such as,

BANK NAME
ACCOUNT NAME
ACCOUNT NUMBER
BIC OR SWIFT CODE

Also your address and your mobile number will be needed so that my agent can locate you once the payment has been done and you dont need to worry your self for any documentation or papers because my agent will arrange for it, i will be happy if you can send me more photos of the bike, i will be waiting for your soonest response,

Thanks.,
 
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 01:12 | Сообщение # 3
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- Морфин: how to be with customs who will pay in customs.
your offer on so many quickly. for me it is quite strange to buy the motorcycle without survey on the Internet. in what secret?

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Hello.

Thanks for your response, you dont need to pay for any custom charges because my agent will be responsible for all necessary things that is needed and i want you to send me more photos of the bike,

Am waiting for your soonest response,
- Морфин: Joe kluvert you didn't answer a question. in what secret? where you found my announcement of motorcycle sale? also I can learn who buys from me the motorcycle, a name a surname the country

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Hello.

i found your advert on avito.ru, so here is my address below.

Name : Joes Kluvert
Address: 9B the Orchard
City: Blackheath
County: London
Post Code: SE30QS
Country: United Kingdom.

So am waiting for you to send me your bank details so that i can make the payment.

Thanks,

- Морфин: Nice to meet you. I can learn where there will go my motorcycle, really to England. I don't trust. Usually we bring motorcycles from England, and here on the contrary. We have in Moscow now a night, I can't learn bank details. I can learn tomorrow morning.

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Okay i will be waiting for you to send me your bank details so that i can make the payment.

- Морфин: Joes Kluvert ok. I found bank details

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Okay you can send it to me so that i can arrange for the payment,

- Морфин: Joes Kluvertv tell why to you my motorcycle, in England there is not Yamaha

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
There is but i understand little russia that is the reason why i want to buy from russia and there wont be no problem everything will be fine okay,

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Hello.

Thanks for your response, the payment will be done and i will make an additional payment of 1.200 and the money is for the shipping agent, so i want you to help me to send the sum of 1.,200 USD to the courier logistics in united kingdom through western union , so once the payment has been done you will receive a notification from my bank because i have already send your bank information's to the bank for the payment to be done,

Thanks,

- Морфин: I don't understand that you want. that for 1200

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
i said that i will add extra 1.200 USD to the payment and i want you to help me to send the 1.200 USD to my shipping agent head quarter in united kingdom, the payment of 9.500 USD. so the payment will be done as soon as possible and i also include western union charges to it.

Морфин: you can't to translate 1.200 USD on yours shipping agent head quarter in united kingdom

-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
Yes i can not send the money to them now due to the nature of my Job am a submarine engineer and as am talking to you now am in Bahamas , so i dont have time to send the money because am on sea right now and there is no western union on see, so that is the reason why i want to make an additional payment and you will help me to send the money to them through western union okay.

The payment will be done as soon as possible.
 
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 01:14 | Сообщение # 4
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-Joe kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com
I have just completed the Payment of the boat and i am sure you have received the confirmation from my bank regarding the Payment, you can check your e-mail for confirmation of payment. I want you to send me your address so that the pick up can be arranged, the boat would be picked up by the Courier Exchange Logistics Company which I've been using for a while and they're very reliable. I made an extra payment 1.200 USD and i am sure you noticed that, you'll have to send the extra amount to the Shipping Company through Western Union right away,

so that they can come ahead for the pick up and also you should send your address where they have to come for the pick up and also the necessary Western Union Payment Information. I will need you to send the excess fund to my pick up agent Headquarters where they normally confirm any commission payment to via western union money transfer(this can be done from the post office, as they usually have a western union agent there). Here is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to send the money through Western Union.

Middo Mike
39 redbourne drive, thamesmead,
London
SE28 8RZ
United Kingdom

I am sure you have all my name and address for all documentations regarding the auto, and all other documentations should be prepared by my Pick Up Agent. You should send the money soon so that the Pick Up would be scheduled and you would know when the Pick Up would commence, make sure you're home. I advice you to check both your inbox or junk/spam folder for the payment confirmation message.

So just make sure you send the extra amount to the Shipping Company right away so that you can get your money immediately. It's Nice Doing Business With You. Get to mail me back soon with your address and i
also add the sum of 200 USD for you to pay for the western union charges Waiting for your reply.

Thanks,

- Royal Bank Of Scotland info@notificationdept.com
TRANSFER ORDER NUMBER:SW1100592012KMS

The Online Wire Transfer Order from Royal Bank Of Scotland Online Banking has been Approved .
TRANSFER NUMBER :- SW1100592012KMS

We have received a ONLINE TRANSFER ORDER placed by our Customer {Kluvert Joe) have the sum of {$9.500.00 USD) transferred to you {Prokofev Sergey} as a payment for {Bike} and it has been successfully processed and has consequently been APPROVED. The financial details of the transaction are stated below:
Transfer Receipt Confirmation

Order Status: APPROVED
Transfer Payments Order Available AVAILABLE
Date Placed 3/12/2012
Order Status TRANSFER CONFIRMED
Transfer Order Number SW1100592012KMS
Billing Information:
Transfer Status: ONLINE WIRE TRANSFER CONFIRMED
Payment Method Visa Card/Cash
Card Number 4***********5643
Exp. Date 12/2015
Name on Card Kluvert Joe
Street Address 36 Salisbury avenue
City, State, Zip Barking IG119XP
Country U.K
Services Purchased: Direct Transfer/Cash
Merchandise Amount $8.100.00 USD
Transport Charges Including Western Union Charges $1.200.00 USD

Total Amount transferred to seller $9.500.00 USD
Item Unit 1 Unit
Shipping Services Cross country Courier Company
Auction Site xxx
Item Description Bike




Seller's Information: Use our online Transfer to pay for online purchases, the companies / individuals you buy from all over the world. This is an important security feature and certainly is better than having your credit card number transmitted all over the Internet. Our Service is secure, and we screen our merchant accounts very closely in order to protect the sellers and the buyer
Name
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Email Address of the seller -----------------

Country Russia

*** RECEIVER'S INFORMATION ***

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*** CITY LINK PICK UP COMPANY ADDRESS ***

Name : Middo Mike
Address : 39 redbourne drive, thamesmead,
City : London
Post Code : SE28 8RZ
Country : United Kingdom

NOTE: This Online Credit Card® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been "Approved".This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by the Sender and been deducted from his/her Bank Account which is ready to be credited into your account, been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for an AUTOMOBILE purchased from you.We reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.

The above sum has Included the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per RBS AUTOMOBILE PAYMENT POLICY).

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- Royal Bank Of Scotland info@notificationdept.com
Dear .........

You have received a Royal Bank Of Scotland Payment of $9.500 USD
from Mr Joe Kluvert kluvert78649@gmail.com ).
We've placed a temporary hold on the funds of this transaction
As mentioned in the receipt of Payment and as per New Royal Bank Of Scotland Payment policy, we have fully debited the total amount (above) from the buyer's account which included the Transport/Delivery Charges (Courier Exchange Logistics).

In order to complete this transaction and get the funds approved in your account. We advice you go to nearest Western Union Office, and send the excess sum of
$1.200.00 USD to the Transport Agent and send us a Scanned Copy/Photograph of your Western Union Transaction Receipt (in .JPG Format).

NOTE: This is important as a security measure to ensure safety of this transaction.

Please, find below the name and address of the Transport Agent where the Funds would be sent via Western Union Money Transfer.

Click Here Locate Nearest Western Union Office

Transport Company: " COURIER EXCHANGE "

Address: Middo Mike
39 redbourne drive, thamesmead,
London
SE28 8RZ
United Kingdom

Address Status: Confirmed

Your Account will be credited accordingly upon the receipt of details requested. Should either be sent in JPG format or send type details as:

(1) Sender's Name;
(2) Receiver's Name;
(3) MTCN;
(4) Amount Sent;
(5) Western Union Receipt
________________________________________

You may contact Royal Bank Of Scotland or reply to this message directly using the reply button in your email to submit the required information and include either transaction ID or reference number (PP307) quick recognition of this transaction.
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Sincerely,

The Royal Bank Of Scotland
 
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 01:15 | Сообщение # 5
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На сим мой интерес к данному клиенту совсем остыл. Такая красивая афера заканчивается обычной банальщиной – переведите нам сначала немного денег, что бы потом получить много денег.

Ну и далее запрос в службу безопасности банка Royal Bank Of Scotland
Ответ info@notificationdept.com - Данный почтовый ящик не принадлежит Royal Bank of Scotland и данные письма были сгенерированы мошенниками.
Ну и мое прощальное письмо:

- Морфин:
Hello Joes Kluvert
Well where money? Whole $10000. I still wait. I yes addressed in Royal Bank Of Scotland. Money why that isn't present.
And still, the bank security service why that became interested in messages from bank, checks the specified accounts. One interest remained – really you are the truth the foreigner. Such receptions are characteristic for our Russian guys.
Hello from snow-covered Russia. Morphin.
 
sed Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 10:09 | Сообщение # 6
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вариации "нигерийского" развода cool
 
Tun_neris Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 11:18 | Сообщение # 7
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Мой статус в Skype

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Во-во и мне такая дрянь пришла.

Но я сразу в жопу послал.
 
babiker Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 14:16 | Сообщение # 8
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Я на vkontakte.ru

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а я гдето читал как таких разводил разводят там даже сайт свой есть
 
КРЫНЯ Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 21:18 | Сообщение # 9
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Он-лайн цивилизация ётить за ногу devil
уже в глаза смотреть не хотят, а электронку шлют.


Правдой дорожить, лжи не потакать,
Дальних не судить, ближним помогать.
 
Морфин Дата: Среда, 05.12.2012, 23:30 | Сообщение # 10
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Quote (babiker)
а я гдето читал как таких разводил разводят там даже сайт свой есть


жаль я не знал, а то бы еще поигрался
 
skuns99 Дата: Четверг, 06.12.2012, 01:05 | Сообщение # 11
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Вот суки! angry И мне такая же хрень пришла.

skuns99.blogspot.com
 
Морфин Дата: Четверг, 06.12.2012, 12:15 | Сообщение # 12
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И еще друзья внимание. Я думал что если мне деньги поступят на счет то уже ни какой опасности не будет (каким бы ни было подозрительным предложение) Снял деньги с счета - отдал товар - все довольны. Однако нет. Возможны и такие варианты развития событий:

1) Вам перечисляют деньги на ваш банковский счёт. Казалось бы, всё хорошо, и вы отсылаете товар. Но через месяц банк снимает с вашего счёта эту сумму как ошибочно зачисленную. В банке вам скажут, что перечисление было сделано со взломанного счёта, и настоящий хозяин счёта с помощью полиции и суда законно возвращает свои деньги. Если вы успели потратить эти деньги, то банк вернёт свои, а затем будет требовать с вас и сумму, и проценты за овердрафт.
2)На ваш банковский счёт, якобы по ошибке, перечисляется намного больше денег, чем договаривались. Затем вас просят лишнюю разницу вернуть, но уже на другой счёт. Когда вы это сделаете, включается предыдущий вариант (читай п.2) и через месяц банк снимет с вашего счёта полученную сумму.
 
newone Дата: Пятница, 07.12.2012, 17:29 | Сообщение # 13
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И не лень тебе было переписываться) Ведь сразу же понять, что разводилово)
 
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